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Post by RowdyRowdyPiper on Oct 4, 2005 8:27:21 GMT 7
Here is where we gonna post some new settings and results... whether it works or not...
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Post by RowdyRowdyPiper on Oct 4, 2005 8:34:01 GMT 7
captain log: 4/10/2005 9.30 am.... ;D
will test locked front and rear diff together tonight on pro2 with pvc...
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Post by GTO on Oct 4, 2005 10:11:40 GMT 7
watchout for this kamikaze drifter...lol
psst...is it going to be understeer or oversteer? Or even both, a perfect combo?
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Post by RowdyRowdyPiper on Oct 4, 2005 10:39:33 GMT 7
psst...is it going to be understeer or oversteer? Or even both, a perfect combo? it should b both i think... maybe more to oversteer... also change the droop setting... so we see how it work out tonight... from wat i juz read... tonight track might b happening... u got spare pvc? |
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Post by GTO on Oct 4, 2005 14:20:21 GMT 7
got one set left i think.
... think i will hunt some better wear rate alternative to PVC
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Post by RowdyRowdyPiper on Oct 5, 2005 7:16:36 GMT 7
okay heres the lowdown on the testing last night... 2 sets of track last night... kudos to dabomb and team(a few guys but dun noe their names... only noe IZ  ) chassis: HPI PRO 2 shell: HPI Silvia motor: tuned 23T(meanin timing changed including the springs), geared at 5.89 setup: no change except more droop on both front and rear and of course locked front and rear result: impressive... manages to hold drift on big sweeper... oso able to turn better on tighter corners... but theres a slight understeer for tight turns... 2 possible reason... motor gearing and shock oil... motor gearing too low need to be higher... thus not enough torque... this should also improve on big sweeper... no wonder the pvc wear not as high as when it was geared at 7plus... shock oil too thick... will go lower in order to make the car transfer weight faster especially to the front.. will update again... so stay tune... |
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Post by GTO on Oct 5, 2005 9:17:38 GMT 7
more droop and/or lighter oil/softer spring in front ?
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Post by poleposition on Oct 5, 2005 10:22:30 GMT 7
marah, are you currently using 40wt shock oil? thanks for posting the findings.
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Post by RowdyRowdyPiper on Oct 5, 2005 11:43:43 GMT 7
more droop and/or lighter oil/softer spring in front ? already set the droop... will change to lighter oil all round... springs to remain as it is... |
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Post by RowdyRowdyPiper on Oct 5, 2005 11:45:32 GMT 7
marah, are you currently using 40wt shock oil? thanks for posting the findings. yes... will be changing to 20wt... might also change the shock piston... |
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Post by poleposition on Oct 5, 2005 12:09:55 GMT 7
understand GTO using 50wt oil for his TC3 so i guess his pistion must be using at 3H or else the shock will be too stiff. as for you to use 20wt, will use use 2H or 3H?
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Post by RowdyRowdyPiper on Oct 5, 2005 12:29:44 GMT 7
not sure how many holes GTO using... gotta wait for his reply...
as for me, not sure yet...
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Post by GTO on Oct 5, 2005 12:33:52 GMT 7
fire in the hooole...
3 holes it is.
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Post by GTO on Oct 11, 2005 11:45:23 GMT 7
I will stick with oneway at the moment and try for lighter oil and/or softer springs, to make it more stable on the big sweeper. Will try from hard spring to soft ones. Oil will be 200.
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Post by RowdyRowdyPiper on Oct 12, 2005 7:00:55 GMT 7
I will stick with oneway at the moment and try for lighter oil and/or softer springs, to make it more stable on the big sweeper. Will try from hard spring to soft ones. Oil will be 200. aiyah forgot to test ur car... it looks so so... unpredictable esp when u need to tap ur brake... |
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Post by RowdyRowdyPiper on Oct 12, 2005 7:16:52 GMT 7
since i've retired the pro2...rather it was forced into retirement ;D my new drift chassis is the tl01... and after the initial run last night... i will b stickin to tis chassis for the time being cos it drifted so well and its maintance free... will b doin some minor setup tweak to see if it can be improved further... but the current setup already rocks...
Setup
Chassis: TL01 with long arm
Shell: Mercs
Front: HPI Gold Springs/40wt/3holes/white roll bar/droop a lot
Rear: HPI Silver Springs/40wt/3holes/white roll bar/droop a lot
F/R Diff: suppose to be lock, but after checking, its now loose... guess need to stuff more blue tack
Motor: 23Turn
Gearing: Stock with 21teeth
Will change the roll bar to the gray ones(harder) to see if its better
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Post by GTO on Oct 12, 2005 9:05:43 GMT 7
except for the big sweeper which sometimes spun in the midway, it's more stable.
Notice the sluggishness as expected during chicane cornering. Not so fantastic on high speed drift but highly controllable on slow speed. FR shocks: TA blue spring, 200wt oil, 3holes.
tested Marah's car and it's significantly even more controllable even on big sweeper and chicanes...but controlling throttle and steering wise is very active..which may not be so suitable for beginners except hardcore's.
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Post by RowdyRowdyPiper on Oct 12, 2005 11:04:27 GMT 7
tested Marah's car and it's significantly even more controllable even on big sweeper and chicanes...but controlling throttle and steering wise is very active..which may not be so suitable for beginners except hardcore's. haha... under/over steer all at ur finger tips... Iz u tested my car... wats ur feedback... |
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Post by Izdiamond on Oct 12, 2005 11:33:42 GMT 7
Overall good driftable car...like what GTO said....not suitable for beginners....even i find it hard to control....lol.....
For my driving....oversteer is ok....but not too much.....getting the car to drift is easy....but determining how much of angle you want the car to go sideway is rather tricky.....ultimate steering control is a must for this car..... ;D ;D
In which i don't posses....lol ;D ;D
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Post by GTO on Oct 12, 2005 14:31:59 GMT 7
haha... under/over steer all at ur finger tips... thats why....FR lock=under+over+insane control LOL |
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Post by GTO on Oct 12, 2005 14:34:10 GMT 7
Just got the longing material for TNS type D tyre when i bump into Dabomb...
he said how come TNS still got secret secret ...lol
well anyway, this is trial mah, once it's confirmed good (or no good) then we post the findings, OK master D?
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Post by RowdyRowdyPiper on Oct 12, 2005 15:24:40 GMT 7
thats why....FR lock=under+over+insane control LOL but hor the car feel very good... can drive relak relak... or drive like mad dog... woof woof... too bad Iz never bring his car or not... ;D |
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Post by RowdyRowdyPiper on Oct 12, 2005 15:28:21 GMT 7
Overall good driftable car...like what GTO said....not suitable for beginners....even i find it hard to control....lol..... For my driving....oversteer is ok....but not too much.....getting the car to drift is easy....but determining how much of angle you want the car to go sideway is rather tricky.....ultimate steering control is a must for this car..... ;D ;D In which i don't posses....lol ;D ;D bro dun b modest la... but i believe its much difficult to drive compared to my retired pro2... |
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Post by RowdyRowdyPiper on Oct 12, 2005 15:29:28 GMT 7
Just got the longing material for TNS type D tyre when i bump into Dabomb... he said how come TNS still got secret secret ...lol well anyway, this is trial mah, once it's confirmed good (or no good) then we post the findings, OK master D? oooh... i wonder wat!!! btw my tl01 got one setup i did not post... sssh  mayb Iz photos might reveal it... haha |
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Post by poleposition on Oct 13, 2005 7:38:07 GMT 7
marah,
just wondering what makes you want to choose to use a TL01 chassis instead of others including the TT-01D? Any partitcular reason?
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Post by RowdyRowdyPiper on Oct 13, 2005 7:59:29 GMT 7
marah, just wondering what makes you want to choose to use a TL01 chassis instead of others including the TT-01D? Any partitcular reason? simple dude... cos its lying in my store room and i dun hav a tt01... haha... |
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Post by poleposition on Oct 13, 2005 8:42:50 GMT 7
i see....
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Post by GTO on Oct 17, 2005 14:32:20 GMT 7
most retired racing cars become excellent drifters...
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Post by Rubbish on Oct 18, 2005 15:10:28 GMT 7
OF COurse la cause all your retired car are all the best cars in that era
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Post by GTO on Oct 18, 2005 17:32:52 GMT 7
few racers become excellent drifters...
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mayb Iz photos might reveal it... haha