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Post by NoSurprises™ on Nov 12, 2006 15:57:33 GMT 7
Any setting suggestions??
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Post by navlem on Nov 12, 2006 15:59:56 GMT 7
You got a pro4 liao meh?
as for suggestions you should just wait for J to come along, he is the pro 4 pro4
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Post by J on Nov 12, 2006 16:27:33 GMT 7
diao.. i noob la. i can't even set my own car much without help from rubbish and dabomb.
Front toe out 2 degrees
back toe in 2 degrees
No camber.
Back shocks are vertical. third mount position top, middle position bottom.
Front shorts are very horizontal, 1st mount position top, middle position bottom.
0 oil in all oilshocks.
front using stock silver coils ( that were supposed to be for back according to the instruction manual )
back using hpi pro4 white labelled coil ( the coils are black but the hardness gauge colour is white )
can't remember my ride height, but as a rough estimate, from bottom of the oil cap to the turning cap that adjusts the spring tension, front is 6mm, back is 1.05cm
back ball diffs 85% locked, front ball ( pro4 comes with front one way but i swapped to ball )about 60-70% lock ( just adjusted last night )
95 teeth 64 pitch spur
43 pinion on driftmaster SE
44 pinion on Sportstune
Ackerman setting position 1.
lastly, and most importantly remove the anti-roll bars, or just don't install them when u build the car.
this the best setting i've managed to use so far, but its still not perfect.
Iphong will probably give more suggestions, but bear in mind that his car runs drift tyres on carpet floor, not the same as pvc on singapore mscp surface.
reccommended hopups: heat sink for motor, 95teeth spur ( stock is 98 ), ball diff for front, aluminium shock end balls ( the plastic one gets crushed very easily if u screw in ur shocks a bit too hard )
optional hopups: ( not listing all the options, jsut some that i have used and liked ) aluminium battery holder ( acts as heat sink for battery ), heat sink mod motor mount. 2nd large fin 11mm width heatsink from speedmind. ( these 2 were added cos my SE has a high tendency to overheat. not very necessary if using sports tuned, these 2 are excluding the normal heat sink mounted on the motor )
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Post by NoSurprises™ on Nov 12, 2006 18:04:57 GMT 7
Got a 2nd hand... Dun really understand HPI pro4 yet cos no electronics... have to wait first...
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Post by J on Nov 12, 2006 18:18:14 GMT 7
oic.. mmm. do u know if its a 2004 edition or 2005?
cos there are some differences , though mainly its pertaining to the thickness of the carbon graphite plates only. anyway, gd luck with it, and any help needed just post back here, or ask me on msn.
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Post by NoSurprises™ on Nov 12, 2006 18:43:14 GMT 7
oic.. mmm. do u know if its a 2004 edition or 2005? cos there are some differences , though mainly its pertaining to the thickness of the carbon graphite plates only. anyway, gd luck with it, and any help needed just post back here, or ask me on msn. i not sure which edition.. cos i aredi buy liao... so better not to know so much detail on tat also... hahaha (dun wan to feel pain...) But anyway, i will definately pm u when in doubts. But shouldn't be too early... kena complain spend too much liao....  Hav to brush up my skills with my tt01 first... |
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Post by J on Nov 12, 2006 20:47:13 GMT 7
lol.. a girlfren may scold u and dump u, but a rc car always serves its master obediantly. u tell it go right left back forward, it listens to ur instructions.. drop the girlfren lah.. lol. join the *lonely drifters* club.
the edition not a big diference so dun need worrie. only graphite plate for 2005 slightly thinner than 2004 to reduce weight. lol.. actually, u can rip out ur tt01 electronics put on ur pro4. everything should be easily transferred over. can dump tt01 together with girlfren.. hehehe
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Post by NoSurprises™ on Nov 13, 2006 8:19:23 GMT 7
lol.. a girlfren may scold u and dump u, but a rc car always serves its master obediantly. u tell it go right left back forward, it listens to ur instructions.. drop the girlfren lah.. lol. join the *lonely drifters* club. the edition not a big diference so dun need worrie. only graphite plate for 2005 slightly thinner than 2004 to reduce weight. lol.. actually, u can rip out ur tt01 electronics put on ur pro4. everything should be easily transferred over. can dump tt01 together with girlfren.. hehehe Hahaha, will spend more time fixing up the pro4 instead.... ;D... then when fixed aredi, will let her play the tt01 then i play the pro4... ;D then she nothin to say liao... hahaha |
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Post by dan on Nov 13, 2006 16:01:12 GMT 7
haha.... i tot kezumi wanted a yoke instead??
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Post by navlem on Nov 13, 2006 16:45:29 GMT 7
haha.... i tot kezumi wanted a yoke instead?? not that he could find a second hand yoke |
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Post by dan on Nov 13, 2006 18:56:44 GMT 7
haha... haven seen him post any photos of his HPI yet... i wanna see!  i like J's HPi... |
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Post by NoSurprises™ on Nov 13, 2006 20:55:22 GMT 7
my pro4 not tat pro yet(no motor no nothing)... hahaha... i will slowly zhng my car this time... no rush at all... (i hope) hahaha... will change everything inclusive of the transmitter for the pro4... let's see wat i will do to it... ;D
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Post by J on Nov 13, 2006 22:07:34 GMT 7
haha.. just an interesting point to add..
ur tx/rx makes a d**n big difference in the car's performance also..
i didn't think it would be that much difference, but since changing from T2PHKA to 3PK, the responsiveness of the car increase by almost 1.5 times.
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Post by csr on Nov 13, 2006 22:54:31 GMT 7
I say it's skill dependant. For low level drifters like me, I think a T2PHKA is enough. Not skilled enough to appreciate the difference. lol..... And TT-01 too....
Also fueling too many other hobbies..... can't afford $400 tx. =P
But since this is a pro 4 thread.....
I tried J's pro 4 and my conclusion is that the weight does make a difference. It's easier to tighten your drift around a corner and may be easier for a low level motor to maintain a long drift (considering a lighter car would require less power to overcome coefficient of friction to skid.... correct? my physics was waaaay too far back) But that's probably true for lighter chassis rather than for pro4 specifically.
So Kezumix, maybe you can just try with your TT-01 motor and electronics to see how it goes first?
Haven't tried with his new tx yet though. Scared drop; sell my TT-01 also cannot pay back. heh.....
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Post by J on Nov 14, 2006 0:23:40 GMT 7
mmm the weight is one significant issue, but i think the geometry of the car is also one of the primary reasons for better performance. yes, the effect of ligher chassis is similar for other kits also.
with regards to the motor however, the gear ratio is crucial in getting the right balance for the car. tts why i offered different pinion values for Driftmaster SE and sports tuned.
the SE is !@# woot woot good for me.
and of course haha, i'm not saying all should change TX straightaway lah.. on a second note though, i believe that on a higher end kit, better electronics would help maximise the potential more, though the difference btw TT01 and Pro4 were already quite obvious even when using T2PHKA for both.
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Post by NoSurprises™ on Nov 14, 2006 8:12:04 GMT 7
I understand wat u all mean... just that i want to keep the tt01 whole kit as one instead of swopping here and there... Cos i would like to play with my first kit as well... ;D so tat's why i doing the pro4 slowly... So at the mean time... save money first... ;D Thanks for all the reminders and ideas that were being contributed... Cos it seems like there wasn't any thread on HPI pro4. Hoped to see u in future J, so can test test ur pro4.. then at least can feel the difference... hahaha
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Post by *team trixie™ | X on Nov 14, 2006 8:47:59 GMT 7
to pick up a point, you may want go just go all out and grab the best tx u can find this time round since there is little chance that you will be upgrading from a pro 4 anytime soon (upgrade to what???). it will save you the problem of upgrading again in future. it might pain you to spend 400 plus on a 3pk or nearly 300 on a 3pm but its really worth the money.
if you have time on your hands, i suggest that you rebuild ur chassis 1st to understand how all the parts work and to check that you got all the parts promised to you like ball diffs, front one way etc.
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Post by NoSurprises™ on Nov 14, 2006 9:07:17 GMT 7
to pick up a point, you may want go just go all out and grab the best tx u can find this time round since there is little chance that you will be upgrading from a pro 4 anytime soon (upgrade to what???). it will save you the problem of upgrading again in future. it might pain you to spend 400 plus on a 3pk or nearly 300 on a 3pm but its really worth the money. if you have time on your hands, i suggest that you rebuild ur chassis 1st to understand how all the parts work and to check that you got all the parts promised to you like ball diffs, front one way etc. yar... i will definately rebuild the chassis... it is part of the fun in drifting.... really tends to understand more of the chassis. But nd to find some time first.... ;D Cos the 2nd hand pro4 i bought doesn't comes with the original stocks... so i have to slowly know which part is which part and to rebuild it.... ;D i definately got all the time i want but provided the HPI side dun discontinue their product so fast... |
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Post by sidewaysdriver6 on Nov 14, 2006 12:44:16 GMT 7
...since there is little chance that you will be upgrading from a pro 4 anytime soon (upgrade to what???).... hara edition, with ex-10 helios and spectrum module and receiver ;D? whoo hoo... or maybe a hpi baja 5b set to drift  now that's something i'd like to see. sorry for this totally useless post lol... |
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Post by *team trixie™ | X on Nov 14, 2006 13:19:01 GMT 7
erm. to convert to hara edition just need to hop up parts. no real need to upgrade the whole chassis.  ...since there is little chance that you will be upgrading from a pro 4 anytime soon (upgrade to what???).... hara edition, with ex-10 helios and spectrum module and receiver ;D? whoo hoo... or maybe a hpi baja 5b set to drift now that's something i'd like to see. sorry for this totally useless post lol... |
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Post by sidewaysdriver6 on Nov 14, 2006 15:57:52 GMT 7
oh yup i know. should have added "hop-up" to hara ed. specs, sorry ;D! erm. to convert to hara edition just need to hop up parts. no real need to upgrade the whole chassis. hara edition, with ex-10 helios and spectrum module and receiver ;D? whoo hoo... or maybe a hpi baja 5b set to drift now that's something i'd like to see. sorry for this totally useless post lol... |
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Post by J on Nov 14, 2006 23:44:33 GMT 7
lol.. actually my car already hopped up close to hara ed, except my motor mount is heat sink version, not cutaway like hara.
some alum upgrades are done, i think short of 3 more sets of alum (about $20-$30 each set ), and short of 2 graphite upper gear box securing plates ( $34 a piece.. need 2 very chor )
too much alum actually not too good.. heavier than graphite
hara ed is front spool, i changed mine to front ball..
besides that almost all done.
and personally i think ex10 helios, 3pk or m11 all already end of the line for that brand, not much point in swtiching from my 3pk to ex10 or wat liao... the most hardcore i think is M11 special purple edition with purple everything including servos. tts for the truly crazy purple hpi fan. 1000+ at taising.
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Post by NoSurprises™ on Nov 15, 2006 13:15:59 GMT 7
Really can't wait for my pro4 to set up liao... MUST TAHAN!!!!!! hahahaha
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Post by ali_g on Nov 15, 2006 22:00:27 GMT 7
lol.. actually my car already hopped up close to hara ed, except my motor mount is heat sink version, not cutaway like hara. some alum upgrades are done, i think short of 3 more sets of alum (about $20-$30 each set ), and short of 2 graphite upper gear box securing plates ( $34 a piece.. need 2 very chor ) too much alum actually not too good.. heavier than graphite hara ed is front spool, i changed mine to front ball.. besides that almost all done. and personally i think ex10 helios, 3pk or m11 all already end of the line for that brand, not much point in swtiching from my 3pk to ex10 or wat liao... the most hardcore i think is M11 special purple edition with purple everything including servos. tts for the truly crazy purple hpi fan. 1000+ at taising. gt wat kind of alum hopup? |
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Post by J on Nov 16, 2006 2:04:03 GMT 7
for now i only got shock end balls, alum batt holder and modded motor mount, there are quite a few more alum hopups that i dun have but i can't list them off my head now. also think some of them are unnecessary unless u just want purple colour all over.
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Post by dan on Nov 16, 2006 8:47:33 GMT 7
wat is the main diff btw the hara ed and the normal ones?
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Post by *team trixie™ | X on Nov 16, 2006 9:02:07 GMT 7
hara edition comes with hop ups and settings based on atsushi hara's preference.
anyway, kezumix, because the pro 4 is extremely sensitive to setting adjustments, setting it can be a rather long process.
you may want to start on it ASAP so u can get it tuned to your preference ASAP.
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Post by NoSurprises™ on Nov 16, 2006 10:50:35 GMT 7
i also wish to do that.. but no sufficient funds yet.... |
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Post by J on Nov 16, 2006 18:40:50 GMT 7
sacrifice the tt01 man.. lol.. just rip the electronics first lah. when u got enough money then buy new ones and put back the old tt01 ones
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Post by dan on Nov 16, 2006 20:05:46 GMT 7
haha... tt-01 has become a scrificial item?
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Hav to brush up my skills with my tt01 first...
i like J's HPi...
