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Post by neonguy on Feb 17, 2006 14:58:59 GMT 7
Does anybody use them... :shock: sorry. I know SOMEBODY is using brushless motors. I'm thinking of swapping my 37t that came with the YOK RTD kit for a Novak. Basically because I don't know what other brushless motors are out there. I've read up on Novac and they seem pretty decent. Just pricey. But, brushless motors seem like they're going to be pricey either way I go.
For those that know, are they worth the cash and does anyone have any recommendations on ones they use or they'd go with.
Thanx.
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Post by GTO on Feb 17, 2006 15:17:34 GMT 7
Novak SS5800+ is good for drifting and with correct gearing it should be sweet. They are less maintenance but doesn't mean no maintenance needed. With rpm sensor, the control is pretty spot on but whole setup downside is size and weight. I've run 2 set for 2 years and one of them died... just a picture of the reliability. Novak offer 1 to 1 exchange to a refurb/brand new one at a fix fee.
Other options are: LRP-Reedy Neo or Nosram, they are similar. The ESC (sensor) can be use for either brush or brushless motor. Would love to try one of these days.
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Post by Neova on Nov 8, 2006 21:17:19 GMT 7
brushless motor does pull force to the car to get sideways easily and fast and steady
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Post by dan on Nov 15, 2006 16:14:20 GMT 7
is a brushless motor more recommended than a 23T or 27T motor?
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Post by Kido Seishirou on Nov 15, 2006 19:00:42 GMT 7
is a brushless motor more recommended than a 23T or 27T motor? No point changing to such high end motor since drifting is nt about speed. Also, changing to such motors, most properly u need to change yr ESC as well.
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Post by NoSurprises™ on Nov 15, 2006 20:58:53 GMT 7
hmmm... cannot say no point ... cos hardcore people who are willing to spend more money to do it better, depends on individual bah...just like drifting is more on skills. If you are tat good enough, u can handle that kind of motors... Never say no... just like last time nobody drift with RC... is whether anyone willing to spend the kind of money to try onli... kekeke. I think there is no right or wrong bah... hehehe... If the rich people dun try... how we know wat is good or no good... kekeke
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Post by J on Nov 15, 2006 21:14:52 GMT 7
mmm. brushless motors are hard to control in case anyone thinks they perform in the exact same way of pulling throttle and letting go.. for more details, should go talk to dabomb or rubbish personally. i suppose its true that the rich can go find out etc.. but if the super laojiao drift pioneers can drift so well with 27ts and even stock silver cans, i think a lot has to be said about maximising ur skill potential rather than spending unnecessary money. anyway even if the rich go experiment le, u must also have the money to go buy the motor after they recommend it and say its good. haha.
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Post by dan on Nov 16, 2006 8:52:15 GMT 7
however the benefit of a brushless is that the maintainance is lower than our normal motors? i also heard that not all chasis can take the kind of power from a brushless, am i right? jsut for curiousity sake, can a yoke or hpi pro 4 take that kind of torque?
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Post by NoSurprises™ on Nov 16, 2006 10:49:33 GMT 7
U give me money to try on my pro4 lor... heheheh ;D
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Post by dan on Nov 16, 2006 11:07:55 GMT 7
haha.. might as well i just try on my yoke... but i doubt i will... my current TZ alr like too fast... cant seem to get the throttling rite... haha...
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Post by sidewaysdriver6 on Nov 17, 2006 12:16:50 GMT 7
personally i agree with kido and J... for playing drag or touring yeah, but for drifting imho i think quite an overkill... for drifting i think slower is better in the sense that you can prolong the pleasure of making that drift lol... also with brushless i think it will be quite hard to make twin drifts with other players...
looking at the cost of these brushless motors, i think the money will be much better invested in getting a good tx like the 3pk or ex-10... or using that money for your next kit... or better yet sponsoring my next kit lol...
hondakid, if the high speed is hard to control for now, you can try to drop the throttle epa (not throttle trim) on your tx (say to maybe 80%). so your motor will run proportionally slower when you fully depress the trigger. then once you get more used to the speed you can gradually bring it back up to 100%.
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Post by AGP™ on Nov 17, 2006 12:30:48 GMT 7
for me oso I tink brushless motor is overkill oso.. personally im using superstock TZ 23Turn motor which is more than enough for me already. even sports tuned motor is very gd.
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Post by J on Nov 17, 2006 12:53:53 GMT 7
in the first place.. motors like silvercan or sports tune already super low maintainence.. only the TZ users need to worry more.
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Post by dan on Nov 17, 2006 14:06:22 GMT 7
why tz need to worry more? need to change the brushes regularly??
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Post by *team trixie™ | X on Nov 17, 2006 18:08:02 GMT 7
need to change brushes. as for how regularly, you will find out. ;D
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Post by dan on Nov 18, 2006 11:07:31 GMT 7
urm......... very? how much are the brushes ar?
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Post by *team trixie™ | X on Nov 18, 2006 16:20:05 GMT 7
abt 7 - 8 bucks i think.
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Post by AGP™ on Nov 18, 2006 16:58:46 GMT 7
tamiya super stock TZ brush are 4.50 per pair.
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Post by dan on Nov 19, 2006 12:12:00 GMT 7
ohhh... okie.. den its not a prob la... i tot going to be d**n ex or wat.. haha.. how do we know when the brushes are worn out?
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Post by AGP™ on Nov 22, 2006 14:51:31 GMT 7
ohhh... okie.. den its not a prob la... i tot going to be d**n ex or wat.. haha.. how do we know when the brushes are worn out? take out the brush and physically chk whether the brush is worn out anot. or when u feel the performance and power of the motor is not there.
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Post by geramnyerakoo on Dec 4, 2006 15:26:55 GMT 7
mmm. brushless motors are hard to control in case anyone thinks they perform in the exact same way of pulling throttle and letting go.. for more details, should go talk to dabomb or rubbish personally. i suppose its true that the rich can go find out etc.. but if the super laojiao drift pioneers can drift so well with 27ts and even stock silver cans, i think a lot has to be said about maximising ur skill potential rather than spending unnecessary money. anyway even if the rich go experiment le, u must also have the money to go buy the motor after they recommend it and say its good. haha. Actually J... Brushless motors can outperform any brushed motors in drifting too... both myself and of course GTO have drifted on brushless motors.. In my case it gives me a longer runtime..(one battery lasts me one whole drift session)... power band is more predictable.. and with the right throttle settings the possibilities are endless..
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Post by NoSurprises™ on Dec 4, 2006 15:30:26 GMT 7
Hmmm... so any recommendations on wat brushless motors to use??
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Post by tofushop193 on Dec 28, 2006 19:44:26 GMT 7
i selling my ss5800 with esc
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