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Post by AndrewJCH on Sept 11, 2004 0:52:20 GMT 7
What have you guys discovered so far with ur car? Let's post afew setups we tend to use so we can compare setups and opinions to come up with more solid ideas on how to set a drift car, and what are the advantages and disadvantages of shaft and belt. What I found so far playing with TL-01, TT-01 and TA-04...i only used these two cars to compare so ur results may vary. SHAFT: More immediate control in direction as torque punches in quick, pushing the car sideways faster, this is seen especially when going in a straight line, and then going side ways, without doing a feint style, the shaft drive turns sideways faster than the belt drive. holds sideways longer than belt cause it punches in very hard and fast since it has more torque, allowing the car to loose traction faster and better, thus less traction means more slide, so my tl-01 can slide really long with it's shaft drive...not to mention it has more high end speed than the tt-01, so it's wheelspins are much more aggressive than the tt-01, which holds it's sideways slightly less. Belt: More speed...with lesser torque, the pvc tires have more time gripping the road, thus generating more friction which powers the car forward even faster. Less stalling when changing direction, this especially obvious when riding a slightly slopey road, going down at one direction, then making a u turn and going back up again. With less torque, the belt drive TA-04 does not stall very long on the spot when doing this directional change, unlike my TT-01, with it having more torque, looses traction when making this directional change, and thus, stalls awhile longer than the TA-04. Setup for Drift car. Both my cars are zero camber to allow even wear and tear of pvc tires, i think it is safe to say that there are other things worth setting to increase performance than to camber pvc tires. My front springs on both my cars are slightly harder than the back springs, i find that it allows the car to throw it's rear better this way, which is opposite from grip cars and 1/1 scale cars, which require it's rear to be harder than the front in order to be able to achieve this result. What about u guys? Any of u discovered something about ur car setup and stuff which u would like to share, anything which u may not agree with when reading this post? Andrew
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Post by Alex on Sept 24, 2004 4:16:08 GMT 7
well, i dont know much about shaft or belt as all my cars are shaft. ;D my setup with Andrew's may be a little different as i choose to have my front very much softer than my rear.(TT-01, Smartech) as for my TL-01, i still love it stock. right, Rick? Cheers.
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Post by Top Secret on Mar 5, 2005 3:04:51 GMT 7
i'm running a TA-03 TRF belt kit, though the car is on literally 0 on all settings, it cannot be set at all. funny thing is that my pvc wear cones inwards.. and yes i get too much traction or oversteer.. i think i gotta lock my rear diff. i'm running front one way too..
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Post by newbieboy on Mar 5, 2005 4:23:50 GMT 7
My front springs on both my cars are slightly harder than the back springs, i find that it allows the car to throw it's rear better this way, which is opposite from grip cars and 1/1 scale cars, which require it's rear to be harder than the front in order to be able to achieve this result. Andrew im lost!!!!!!! so masters out there, which is the prefer set up?? front soft or hard, rear soft or hard
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Post by somebody on Mar 7, 2005 11:46:07 GMT 7
i rather stick to my front hard rear soft..using a shaft...hahaz..gonna get a new set of damper and try all hard...wanna noe wawd the differerence...anyone tried that before??need some advices...
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Post by somebody on Mar 7, 2005 13:20:34 GMT 7
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Post by Bryant on Mar 7, 2005 21:06:14 GMT 7
i rather stick to my front hard rear soft..using a shaft...hahaz..gonna get a new set of damper and try all hard...wanna noe wawd the differerence...anyone tried that before??need some advices... try that front hard rear soft setting b4 on TL01LA, but gotta see which type of chassis you using oso. The Most Important is your basic skills, e.g counter steer... Once, a drift master told me, all RC Car can drift but got to depend on your skills. setting are to help you control you car better, different level of skill = different type of setting. Right Chief? my 5 cent advise, start with a stock one then upgrade loh. ;D
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Post by somebody on Mar 7, 2005 21:18:26 GMT 7
try that front hard rear soft setting b4 on TL01LA, but gotta see which type of chassis you using oso. The Most Important is your basic skills, e.g counter steer... Once, a drift master told me, all RC Car can drift but got to depend on your skills. setting are to help you control you car better, different level of skill = different type of setting. Right Chef? my 5 cent advise, start with a stock one then upgrade loh. ;D o..ok..thanks for ur advise..gonna try it ..hahaz..
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Post by Rubbish on Mar 10, 2005 1:32:00 GMT 7
Ok if u are all toking about shaft / belt drive and setting
I would still prefer belt due to the fact that there is NO troque steer, a balance centre line (50-50 left and right) which is important when drifting. Cause a new drifter may not know how to set the car to counter the trouqe steer, the weight balance, the down stop and most important chassic treak.
Setting wise.
I always set softer spring with lighter shock oil in front. The rear will always be harder as i like to drive a car with a lot of steering.
The ball diff is the same softer in front and heavier at the rear. (Take care not to over tighten the ball diff) Those using gear diff will have to use thick grease (Not Oil) at the rear and squeeze in as many as possible and the front a little bit of grease.
I got more set up but lazy to type. So any question pls ask me during the next meet
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Post by TheoDR on Mar 13, 2005 13:42:28 GMT 7
Hi everyone! I'm a new member here. Anyway, I've been thinking of bringing back my dormant TA04 as a drift car instead. First of all, what size (inner and outer diameter) PVC pipe should I get? Secondly, any recommended setup for the TA04? My car's using the fibre reinforced bathtub chassis and is pretty much tricked out after being so crazy into the hobby from last time. Thanks for taking the time to read and reply!
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Post by Madrocky on Mar 19, 2005 9:22:35 GMT 7
May i know what is the setups for TA04? Do i need to convert it back to 4WD to make it driftable? Coz now i'm using MR. Do i need to lock the rear diff to make it driftable? Do i need to set the chamber and toe?
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Post by Starringme0 on Apr 8, 2005 17:50:58 GMT 7
May i know what is the setups for TA04? Do i need to convert it back to 4WD to make it driftable? Coz now i'm using MR. Do i need to lock the rear diff to make it driftable? Do i need to set the chamber and toe? Yes, you need to put it back to 4WD, MR very very difficult to drift in 1/10, near impossible... I think u do not need to lock the rear diff. The camber and toe can just leave it as 0, or if u want -2 to -4 deg. for the front ^^ (Negative is towards chassis right?)
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Post by canshot on Apr 10, 2005 16:44:47 GMT 7
Hey guys, im new to drifting.. as u can see.. (Joined at April 10 aka todae) btw.. wat do u guys mean by locking the rear differ..? & how do u guys lock it..? need some sort of equipment..?
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Post by Rubbish on Apr 10, 2005 22:55:30 GMT 7
For Tamiya TT01 or other cars try not to lock the diff unless u really need and also know how to do so and also know the effect when u lock the rear diff but there is not need to do so.
For TT01 i advice u to pack the rear diff case with very very thick grease not OIL pls. and put a bit of grease in the front diff case.
There is also no need to hop up to ball diff as gear diff need less maintance
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Post by edwintklee on Apr 11, 2005 20:03:12 GMT 7
hi guys me again, you guys always mention sliver can is that the stock540 motor that comes with my tb02 kit, any good motor for drift, good tq, lasting battery,??
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Post by hachiroku on Apr 11, 2005 21:21:45 GMT 7
Yeah the stock 540 motor is recommended, because it has decent torque, and pretty good battery life.
Also no maintenance! ;D
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Post by canshot on Apr 12, 2005 16:45:53 GMT 7
For Tamiya TT01 or other cars try not to lock the diff unless u really need and also know how to do so and also know the effect when u lock the rear diff but there is not need to do so. For TT01 i advice u to pack the rear diff case with very very thick grease not OIL pls. and put a bit of grease in the front diff case. There is also no need to hop up to ball diff as gear diff need less maintance ... hey thx for the clarifcation man.. if possible teach me all da techniques to driftin.. (eager to drift.. but my pvc tires aint ready yet.. ) for now.. i'll just be listenin to yall advices... thx
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Post by Neova on Nov 8, 2006 21:26:08 GMT 7
just make the front suspension mid soft and rear suspension hard or if u can very hard... if u learn physics, this way it helps the car to lose traction and enable the car to throw its tail outwards easily without losing control with PVC tires or stock drift tyres. if u can try to make the wheel slnt out a bit so that the car wheel will have a little more grip to pull the car back after the drift instead of forcing it outwards to hit the wall.... and one more thing... tt-01 is a chassis ready for drifting so theres not a need for setups just remember to use 20 turn for pvcs and 23 to 27 turn for rubber tyre...
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