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Post by housemartiniz on Dec 4, 2006 23:56:50 GMT 7
I agree with CSR's logic on this. Please, please do not make this personal. Your reasoning on this is appreciated.
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Post by geramnyerakoo on Dec 5, 2006 8:37:45 GMT 7
mmm decided to modify my first reply. u can ask me by pm if ur sincere in finding out. since it concerns me alone, and its not something that u have to highlight on a thread. its way out of topic and not wat i expect from a forum mod. if u know that its off topic and not gonna do much except potentially start an argument then it seems more like someone other than me is treading on toes now. to bring it back to topic.. have to wait for rubbish's reply on T1 since he used it b4 and prob knows it better. uhm.. ok .. to potentially start an arguement ..no that's not my point.. as my sig suggests.. i ask all questions in all honesty .. be it at a drift meet or on the forums..for one i do not consider this a personal attack.. just a general question..It's just that i have been observing the forums for quite awhile. and noting what is going on.. and csr.. it was meant to be a public comment .. because it gives other forum members to give their opinion too..I pride myself for being fair minded to all sides..I applaud you for coming by your teammates side but ..hey i wasn't confrontational about it.. just asking..no need to get all defensive..if you're not comfortable with it we can just all go about our merry ways .. but at the end of the day .. no matter how many posts say the matter is at rest.. in the near future all it takes is one more comment and everything is dug up again.. don't think short term but think long term.. if you think everyone who has the gall to just come up to you and ask you what's wrong with you is AGAINST you.. then it's just sad... I mean i'm on a fact finding quest so to speak... I Could just send a PM but that would just give me ONE side of the story.. I COULD start a brand new thread about this.. but that would be more confrontational and of course you guys would start saying I'm trying to start something.... the mentality is you already think I am somehow against you. (and by you i mean the whole team who seems to have rallied behind each other).. I asked the question plain and simple.. I don't sugar coat them. I quote my Division RSM from a long way back . " WE AS MEN.. HAVE NO PROBLEMS... we only have ISSUES.. and ISSUES CAN BE RESOLVED.. our PROBLEM is when our "weapon" cannot stand.. now THAT'S a problem"
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Post by RowdyRowdyPiper on Dec 5, 2006 9:51:05 GMT 7
I quote my Division RSM from a long way back . " WE AS MEN.. HAVE NO PROBLEMS... we only have ISSUES.. and ISSUES CAN BE RESOLVED.. our PROBLEM is when our "weapon" cannot stand.. now THAT'S a problem" keke nice one!!!
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Post by Champagne Supernova™ on Dec 5, 2006 10:02:14 GMT 7
but at the end of the day .. no matter how many posts say the matter is at rest.. in the near future all it takes is one more comment and everything is dug up again.. don't think short term but think long term.. if you think everyone who has the gall to just come up to you and ask you what's wrong with you is AGAINST you.. then it's just sad... now that's true!
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Post by J on Dec 5, 2006 12:08:52 GMT 7
dude. ur sig shows someone pointing the third finger and being ironic about it by saying nothing personal. it is really ironic that you say its the basis of your arguments. inviting forum members to have a say? i dun know man. there are 3 types of people involved now. people involved, people who dont' want to get involved and people who are clueless. right now it seems like only a handful of us are involved, and you're trying to get more people involved in wat is already a useless argument that is spoiling the forum. 95% of the others in this forum aren't involved or don't know a thing, so lets try to keep it that way for them.
i put it simply to you then. no matter how much you call for an open discussion, the fact remains that the issues of "toe treading" are ALL on the forum. I am not childish enough to go back and modify or delete my words. So if you want to find facts, just go search the previous threads, and not try to open up a shooting gallery, which spoils the forum for people uninvolved. anyone who wants to know the truth should just go read, instead of creating a thread asking for people to start a flame war.
lets assume that you are given benefit of the doubt as to being neutral. so until u come to a conclusion we'll leave it as that. Let this thread go back to the T1, and stop trying to incite a flame war. I'm sure Bryan is sick of having to clean up this kinda nuts all the time.
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Post by csr on Dec 5, 2006 13:05:49 GMT 7
and csr.. it was meant to be a public comment .. because it gives other forum members to give their opinion too.. .. no matter how many posts say the matter is at rest.. in the near future all it takes is one more comment and everything is dug up again.. the mentality is you already think I am somehow against you. (and by you i mean the whole team who seems to have rallied behind each other).. Hi ShidDy, Erm... perhaps you misunderstood. I have nothing against you. I was thinking of the poor person who started this thread wanting to know about T2. If I have given this impression, I sincerely apologise. I just felt that there is no need to bring out a personal quarrel and waste others' time. I rally behind no one and I am a little upset by that accusation but I'd let it slide. I did not defend, but just pleaded with you to keep private quarrels private, where they should be. Also, your "public comment" IS that "one more comment" that comes out and "everything is dug up again". Please for everyone's sake, let's behave more like young adults and drop this? If I have sounded offensive at all throughout all this, I'll sincerely apologise. You sounded rather angry but that is the impression I get. Typed words can have misleading overtones sometimes. Keep that in mind, please. And to the others who have been fueling this fire with little remarks here and there, please let's not spoil this nice, popular forum the drift pioneers have built up over the years. Would thank you guys if you could do that. ;D
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Post by geramnyerakoo on Dec 5, 2006 13:18:42 GMT 7
J .. thing is have i been critical of you ? have i judged you.. You for one seem to think I have.... now is this a shooting gallery?.. For all i know i have been civil to you or your team members. No mud slinging nothing. Yet your retorts sets the tone.. Trust me if i wanted to incite a flame war it's the easiest thing to do.. ANyone can start one.. but i am not..
and one more thing.. I clean my own messes.. i don't need Bryant to clean up after me. and Bryant might be thinking "oh boy.. shidy's at it again" .. and Right about now you're prolly thinking. "man this guy's an arse" ..
yeah i prolly am your friendly neighbourhood arse.... all i'm wondering now.. why are you being so defensive?..
maybe i was subtly trying to prove a point....
oh and the sig.. it was meant to be in jest.. or maybe you people are too uptight to see it.. so focused on thinking
"Gee i'm so great..everyone hates me cuz i'm so great.. " maybe.... or "wahh this shidy already against me"
point of the matter i am against no-one...words mean nothing... skillz mean nothing.. status means nothing...
my question is .. and it still has not been answered.. Why is it that it seems you have tread on a few toes lately? .. Not to bring up previous arguements..i can see the misunderstandings.. i asked why is it so.? why do you think it happened.? .. right now it doesn't look good for you my friend.. all i am getting is that you're confrontational.. you think all comments are personal and targeted towards you .. or your team mates for that matter.. but the question has not been answered..
i mean if you've met me before you'd know i'm a really nice guy.. I am .. really i am..I .. as much as anyone want to put an end to this hostility... inter team rivalry is always good.. it's healthy competition.. but i see more then that here. ... it will sooner or later blow up into something more.. but if you guys want to be arses about it.. be my guest..I sadly see it's hard to reason when the mind is set .
I guess all i have to say is .. see you on the drift tracks (or dirt tracks if you're into off road as well) .. maybe we'll battle one day in serangoon.
my intentions are not to create a flame war..
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Post by geramnyerakoo on Dec 5, 2006 13:28:48 GMT 7
ok.. saw CSR reply after i posted the above.. .. which actually is the sort of reply i would appreciate better.....
i might be harsh brudda.. but i call a spade a spade..
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Post by *team trixie™ | X on Dec 5, 2006 14:47:17 GMT 7
i find this whole episode extremely amusing. and here's why:
1. why does it matter to you, shiddy, that J has tread on a few toes? considering you are neither a person whose alleged "toes were tread on" nor are you the originator of any thread where these alleged toe treadings took place?
2. you said, "i might be harsh" "i call a spade a spade". then you of all people should understand that forthrightness is easily misintepreted as hostility. i have known j for 6 years and he is the most outrightly frank person i know. now follow me here: if frankness is not a crime (and you as a frank person should know that) then is it so strange that he should appear to have "stepped on a few toes"?
3. the reasonable interpretation of the intention of your act is that you intended to incite anti-community behaviour. and this is why - any reasonable person with knowledge pertaining to forums and online forum behaviour should be able to understand that such an act would lead to pointless arguments or anti-community behaviour. so regardless of whether that was your true intention, it was a mistake to have done so and an apology is due.
4. even if you have a problem with J or what he says, you should have understood that the correct recourse would be to either: take it up with admin or PM or even arrange a face to face meeting. common etiquette and decorum dictates so.
forgive me if i am expecting too much, but i always thought that logic and common sense and common courtesy would have prevailed. we are educated adults from a supposedly developed nation, lets stop it with such behaviour that reflects badly upon us as a community and society.
hope the "powers that be" shut down and delete this thread.
oh and shiddy, if you still have any problems feel free to PM me or J so we can talk things over and trash out any remaining issues.
cheers
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Post by Champagne Supernova™ on Dec 5, 2006 17:35:14 GMT 7
to whom it may concern! i seriously think that all these crap should stop here! wah lau eh! if all of you got issues ah, please PM each other sua! easy! or better get each other contact numbers or better still MSN ah! hahahahaha!
okay the buck stops here eh! or seriously, this thread will be locked!
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Post by navlem on Dec 5, 2006 21:01:46 GMT 7
Calm down everyone, lets go back into the topic, Talk about Xray T2 chassis!
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Post by csr on Dec 5, 2006 21:07:37 GMT 7
Yeah! After all that heat, I'm now quite interested in finding out about the Xray chassis too, hahahahaha. Say, anyone got Singapore prices? Can PM me if you do? Been working too hard, haven't gone down to town for a while to check out.
What about availability of parts? Is it only Hobbylink?
Finally we can get back to the topic!
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Post by NoSurprises™ on Dec 5, 2006 21:38:39 GMT 7
Guess wat... There's a sports shop (shop tat sell running shoes, equipment...etc) tat sells RC... i was d**n surprised to see it... On the display shell, Tamiya, Second shell is a display of charges... and Guess WAT!!!! Xray T2 at the bottom of the displayshell... i was like there stunned for a minute... The shop is call robbie's sports i think?? (abit forget liao.. hahaha) And it's at a shophouse just beside the tampines East CC.... but i dun think it is well equip with RC stuff i think... Cos i was rushing for time and didn't have a good look in the shop... but i am very sure that it is a XRAY T2... ;D will update u guys again when i passby there... ;D
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Post by navlem on Dec 5, 2006 22:39:02 GMT 7
Guess wat... There's a sports shop (shop tat sell running shoes, equipment...etc) tat sells RC... i was d**n surprised to see it... On the display shell, Tamiya, Second shell is a display of charges... and Guess WAT!!!! Xray T2 at the bottom of the displayshell... i was like there stunned for a minute... The shop is call robbie's sports i think?? (abit forget liao.. hahaha) And it's at a shophouse just beside the tampines East CC.... but i dun think it is well equip with RC stuff i think... Cos i was rushing for time and didn't have a good look in the shop... but i am very sure that it is a XRAY T2... ;D will update u guys again when i passby there... ;D cool, would never guess a sports shop selling R/C lol Anything can really happen
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Post by Kido Seishirou on Dec 6, 2006 0:43:46 GMT 7
I believe one drifter came down to bukit batok drift meet with his Xray... Remember?? tat custom painted white Futaba 3PK?? ;D ;D ;D
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Post by housemartiniz on Dec 6, 2006 1:01:28 GMT 7
Think he sold his set already..... I believe one drifter came down to bukit batok drift meet with his Xray... Remember?? tat custom painted white Futaba 3PK?? ;D ;D ;D
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Post by jinglejangle on Dec 6, 2006 1:57:06 GMT 7
think his user on SGD is wohcnil.
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Post by housemartiniz on Dec 6, 2006 13:07:34 GMT 7
Yup Jinglejangle......thats him!
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Post by NoSurprises™ on Dec 6, 2006 14:12:27 GMT 7
hahaha... we still off-topic leh... Get back to the topic (XRAY T2 chassis) we must.... hahahaha
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Post by poleposition on Dec 10, 2006 23:22:03 GMT 7
Well as a X-Ray driver for six years i still think that the T1 chassis still the best and i'm still using the FK 04 till now. The weight is not so important in drifting BUT the balance is. So if u are a bit tight can try getting the T2R or if still can find the T1R. Bro, Any recommend for a drift base setting for a T1? I have a old T1 with CF chassis and keen to convert it for drifting. Appreciated. Thanks~! Anyone inputs on T1?
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