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Post by Bryant on Jul 28, 2006 16:56:32 GMT 7
This thread is for TT01 Drivers to share the setup of your chassis. Setup you found is useful to drifting, which helps you drift better.
FYI: TT01 and TT01D is the same chassis.
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Post by Kido Seishirou on Jul 28, 2006 23:28:02 GMT 7
Shock Oil
Use lighter oil, weight around 20-30 ;D
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Post by Bryant on Jul 29, 2006 11:56:05 GMT 7
Why use lighter oil, can explain more to...
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Post by Kido Seishirou on Jul 29, 2006 12:27:59 GMT 7
Why use lighter oil, can explain more to... Mostly buggy will need a heavier oil cause the track have lot of bumps to jump around, so wen the buggy landed from air, need to absorb the shock. For drifting, track is smooth, no bumps at all, so lighter oil will have the advantage. Car will responds quicker.
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Post by jinglejangle on Jul 29, 2006 13:02:52 GMT 7
shouldn't it be the other way round? if you're drifting, when you got heavier weight oil, it keeps your car from "tilting" to the side too much. this way, it helps you not to spin out easier. for buggys, lighter oil works better because it absorbs the direct impact from bumpy ground. e.g when there're "humps" on the ground and the wheels push upwards into the shocks, light oil or no oil will absorb the impact fully. so the car will be stable and move forward. if the weight of the oil is hard, it will be very rigid, causing the car to lose balance and not move forward properly.
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Post by Kido Seishirou on Jul 29, 2006 14:06:55 GMT 7
Wooo.. u have yr points... izzit also because of the holes inside shock n spring as well? i mean a shock has oil, spring n holes... each of these will effect the overall performance of the damper..
Ya, i did tried adding in weight 70 shock oil. A.. how to say.. hard to drift.. can't really maintain a gd angle drift.. maybe should change the number of holes inside, so the performance will change abit..
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Post by lost on Jul 29, 2006 18:02:23 GMT 7
i dun really agree jingle for buggies.. they are suppose to jump ramps and stuff.. if u say no oil or light oil is good for buggies.. then u will end up seeing ur buggy flying all over the track u will only be left with the suspension spings rebounding after a jump, no shock or less shock is aborbed in the empty or light damper dun u think the car will hop around ? wad a good buggie player wans is the car to stick to the ground after a jump and tat .. they have to use heavy oil wad but back to the main topic .. for drifting i think u wan faster response in ur shock .. thus lighter oil top be used ? tilt too much is because of the springs if u dun wan ur car to tilt .. u shud use harder springs and not harder heavier oil so i think kido is right plz correct me if i m wrong
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Post by jinglejangle on Jul 29, 2006 22:10:56 GMT 7
hmmm yeah i think i'm wrong. sorry. =) but i dunno. maybe it's personal preference? cause i use air shocks on my yoke and feel that on bumpier asphalt, it cushions real well. but when i saw my friend's car drift on the same road, it tends to "hop" and bop up and down alot. maybe cos it's a different kit. =) and i do agree that stiff shock oil for buggies will work. because if it's stiff, it pushes into holes in the ground. but if there's bumps, no air will cushion it. so depends man. i can't correct, too noob. that's why i asked "shouldn't it". haha. just my own theory.
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Post by Bryant on Jul 29, 2006 22:26:49 GMT 7
will the car hop if the shock is with faster response? Just an advise, don need to follow. there's no wrong or right for setting. just will the setting improve your drift/racing. diff driver, diff style. there are also more areas to look in, like your motor, servo, weight and more... lets share what you know, don be shy. my setting is : light oil and soft/med spring for the front, cos i wan the car to swing faster. heavy oil and hard spring for the rear, cos i wan them to stick on the ground.
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Post by Kido Seishirou on Jul 29, 2006 23:06:33 GMT 7
some drifters change oil, spring n holes.. some just change one or 2 stuffs.. overall, i think oil is the most important factor.. anyone have different views?
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Post by krado on Jul 29, 2006 23:41:51 GMT 7
some drifters change oil, spring n holes.. some just change one or 2 stuffs.. overall, i think oil is the most important factor.. anyone have different views? PSsst. There's one drifter among us who doesn't have oil in his shocks at all... just watch carefully... ;D
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Post by housemartiniz on Jul 30, 2006 3:27:28 GMT 7
some drifters change oil, spring n holes.. some just change one or 2 stuffs.. overall, i think oil is the most important factor.. anyone have different views? PSsst. There's one drifter among us who doesn't have oil in his shocks at all... just watch carefully... ;D does it really matter? hehehe....personal preference I believe....
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Post by jinglejangle on Jul 30, 2006 15:16:11 GMT 7
haha yep krado. that very drifter told me what i posted about the buggies. so i thought it would be pretty reliable to trust him if we're talking about the same person that is. or maybe i misinterpreted what he said. HAHA. but yea, mostly it's personal preference. different drifter, different car. like the same way people choose between belt and shaft.
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Post by Rubbish on Jul 30, 2006 22:31:46 GMT 7
Ok guys for my TT 01 Drift car setting seems a bit funny but it works, u guys can try it out if u want to.
For Spring i am using Tamiya White color normal length spring in the front and red normal length spring in the rear.
For Damper oil is nothing !!! no oil at all !!! only oil at the rubber oil ring at the bottom of the shock body.(Guess i am not the only 1 i hope). Why i do this is because i want the shock to be able to absorb the small bumps on the tracks cause PVC got no air gap in between the Rubber Tryes and Rims, and also for faster respone when doing a FLICK and at the same time increase the traction.
For the gear diff keep the gear diff cause buying the ball diff will cause more problem in the long run if u not sure how to matain and service it.
For the Rear Gear Diff i am using BP High Temp grease which is red in color, but u do not need to buy the same grease, just try to find something that is hard and sticky will do and pack it.
For the Front Gear Diff just apply some will do.
For Hop up i am only using Ball Bearing, Alu Shaft and a motor heat sink with fan and that's it, no use spending more money on it. Pefer to buy more bodyshell to use it to set up the car, cause that is 1 of the best ways and also because of the Bling.
U cannot see the Bling Bling on the car when u cover it with the bodyshell right.
Think that is all and got anymore question and shy to ask here can PM or e-mail me. Thanks
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Post by lost on Jul 31, 2006 8:52:47 GMT 7
haha yep krado. that very drifter told me what i posted about the buggies. so i thought it would be pretty reliable to trust him if we're talking about the same person that is. or maybe i misinterpreted what he said. HAHA. but yea, mostly it's personal preference. different drifter, different car. like the same way people choose between belt and shaft. har?? me ah ?? no no no ... lolz.. i use shock oil all the time .. 30 wt front n back i feel tat its better to have some shock absorber then nothing as i feel it is a better setting for most grounds ? btw i m not using any tt-01 i m using mr4tc.. i juz wanted to give my views on the shocks part haha
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Post by jinglejangle on Jul 31, 2006 13:54:26 GMT 7
not you lah lost! haha. it's the ultimate drift tech rubbish lah! look at his set up!
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Post by Bryant on Jul 31, 2006 17:38:58 GMT 7
How about Lock/grease the diff?
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Post by Minerva on Jul 31, 2006 20:47:34 GMT 7
I hear got people use glue tack to lock diff... hmm.. izzit feastible... izzit messy anot?
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Post by Rubbish on Jul 31, 2006 21:16:01 GMT 7
I hear got people use glue tack to lock diff... hmm.. izzit feastible... izzit messy anot? My advice is not to lock the rear or the front diff as you will find that your car will diff too wide when u apply power over drift. What you can do is apply some heavy or sticky grease into the gear diff. If u dun believe u can ask Gin who almost win me in the drift comp after unlocking his rear diff.
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Post by minirc963 on Aug 4, 2006 21:14:53 GMT 7
FYI, you need higher weight oil for buggies because you want to prevent the car from "bottoming out" after you land a jump or somehting
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Post by munehvindalaho on Oct 6, 2006 19:39:18 GMT 7
differentials are something like traction control, right?
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Post by Blackwrench on Oct 11, 2006 8:35:44 GMT 7
rubbish, is putting a shims on the diffs just enough to thighten it have the same effect on using sticky grease?
Are the amount of grease you put on the front and rear diffs of your set-up are the same?
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Post by spartandrifter on Oct 11, 2006 21:46:48 GMT 7
ok Im havin trouble with my servo horn. it will turn but the car wont turn. I assume i have to take it apart and put it back together because there is binding. Someone help?
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Post by Rubbish on Oct 12, 2006 10:29:27 GMT 7
rubbish, is putting a shims on the diffs just enough to thighten it have the same effect on using sticky grease? Are the amount of grease you put on the front and rear diffs of your set-up are the same? Putting Shim on the diff will have more wear and tear on the diff housing, so best is still grease. The amount is different, most of the time is to see how the car handle than from there set the tightens of the diff. Most of the time for Tamiya TT 01 the rear is tighter than the front.
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Post by Rubbish on Oct 12, 2006 10:31:03 GMT 7
ok Im havin trouble with my servo horn. it will turn but the car wont turn. I assume i have to take it apart and put it back together because there is binding. Someone help? Check whether have u over tighten the steering kunkles or the arms.
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Post by spartandrifter on Oct 12, 2006 21:09:11 GMT 7
i thought that would be it now I have to put the entire front end of the chassis back together. Thx a million Edit: Nothing had broken so that must be it
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Post by dan on Oct 26, 2006 22:34:43 GMT 7
Hi, I changed the gears to 55/25. And somehow, it seems much harder to control the drift now than when i had it in stock gearings. Is this normal or am i just lacking practice? All my other parts are stock, other than the bearings, shaft and of coz, the gears. Thanks a mil!
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Post by J on Oct 26, 2006 23:27:15 GMT 7
when u regear ur car, the power ratio changes and u may need to adjust ur suspension in some ways.. or change the way u throttle. easily solved by controlling ur throttle. btw u using stock silver can? if so it really shouldn't be a problem the sudden overpowering problem usually becomes more severe only if u using a more powerful engine like sportstune or driftmaster with 25-55 ratio.
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Post by dan on Oct 27, 2006 8:30:16 GMT 7
i'm still using the stock motor that comes with a normal tt-01.
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Post by *team trixie™ | X on Oct 27, 2006 8:37:00 GMT 7
then what u are experiencing is very strange. cos with my old tt-01, when i changed up to 25:55 on stock silvercan, i did not feel that great a difference, it just made my car slightly punchier.
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